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Post by Les on Apr 18, 2019 13:01:58 GMT
www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/sunderland-afc-news/sunderland-boss-jack-ross-in-the-running-to-replace-alex-mcleish-as-scotland-boss-1-9720617Ross in the running to replace Alex McLeish as Scotland bossSunderland boss Jack Ross is an early outsider to take over from Alex McLeish as Scotland manager. McLeish, 60, left his role as Scottish head coach by mutual consent on Thursday after just 12 matches in charge of the national side. Scotland appointed McLeish in 2018 when the former Rangers and Aston Villa boss replaced Gordon Strachan, following Scotland's failure to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. Strachan is now the early favourite to fill the vacancy, with bookmaker BetVictor offering odds of 4/1 for the 62-year-old to be reappointed. Ex-Sunderland boss David Moyes is the second favourite at 5/1, while Ross is an outside option at 20/1. In a BBC interview back in September, Ross admitted it was his "ultimate ambition" to become the Scotland manager at some stage in his career. A former defender, Ross wasn't able to gain an international cap for his country but did make one appearance for Scotland B in 2009. Yet following reports linking him with the West Brom manager's job, Ross dismissed speculation regarding a possible move away from the Stadium of Light. “I genuinely haven’t read anything this week – I’m trying to be clear-headed about what we’re trying to do,” said Ross. “I’ve said time and time again how much I enjoy this job, and also how much I’ve still got to do within it. “For however long I’m here, that’s what I’ll be focused on, and my commitment to the job I’ve got to do here hasn’t changed. That’s the only thing I’m focused on and there’s still an awful lot of things I want to achieve at Sunderland football club."
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Post by eathummous on Apr 18, 2019 13:46:54 GMT
Yes please. his style of football is better suited to international teams anyway.
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Post by sisyphus on Apr 18, 2019 14:54:45 GMT
Surely even the Scots wouldn't be that daft would they?
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Post by macmackem on Apr 18, 2019 18:15:08 GMT
He won't take it, lose too much money.
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Post by Les on Apr 18, 2019 19:26:02 GMT
He's only 20/1
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Post by paranoidandroid on Apr 18, 2019 22:20:22 GMT
He wants to take a look at the last manager to leave us for international duty and take heed.
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Post by macmackem on Apr 21, 2019 9:00:07 GMT
He wants to take a look at the last manager to leave us for international duty and take heed. Big Sam done it all to himself Para, greed got the better of him. He's money orientated, just reading his book tells you that, every chapter, it's money this, money that. |
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Post by polyphemus on Apr 22, 2019 8:31:06 GMT
Its hard to imagine how anybody who has been involved in football all their life, from childhood through youth to adulthood, would still want to take on the Scotland job.
To call it a thankless, poison chalice is putting a gloss on it.
For whatever reason, the football talent that used to come flowing out of Scotland, no longer exists in the sort of numbers needed to build an international side.
What does exist though, and with the same passion as in the days of Law, Gilzean , Baxter and Dalgleish, is the Fans expectations.
It's raw, boisterous, raucous and sometimes, (often if they win) completely OTT.
In many ways they are like our lot.
Experience has taught them nothing, only heightened their enthusiasm, despite the realities of the situation.
Great fans but when it goes wrong, like Fans the world over, they turn on the manager, quickly and he is blamed for not turning this sows ear of a team into a silk purse.
It will be interesting to see who the next sacrificial cow will be.
I'm guessing it wont be someone in work at present.
Or anybody who is trying to build up a successful CV.
So someone very like the departing Mr McLeish, someone living off their savings, close to retirement, who wouldn't mind a paid job.
On the other hand the Scots in general are an optimistic bunch and they may come up with some soul who see's himself as a footballing William Wallace, riding to the rescue of the country.
What's needed though is a King Robert the First.
Wallace ultimately lost. Robert won.
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Post by macmackem on Apr 22, 2019 11:50:33 GMT
Its hard to imagine how anybody who has been involved in football all their life, from childhood through youth to adulthood, would still want to take on the Scotland job. To call it a thankless, poison chalice is putting a gloss on it. For whatever reason, the football talent that used to come flowing out of Scotland, no longer exists in the sort of numbers needed to build an international side. What does exist though, and with the same passion as in the days of Law, Gilzean , Baxter and Dalgleish, is the Fans expectations. It's raw, boisterous, raucous and sometimes, (often if they win) completely OTT. In many ways they are like our lot. Experience has taught them nothing, only heightened their enthusiasm, despite the realities of the situation. Great fans but when it goes wrong, like Fans the world over, they turn on the manager, quickly and he is blamed for not turning this sows ear of a team into a silk purse. It will be interesting to see who the next sacrificial cow will be. I'm guessing it wont be someone in work at present. Or anybody who is trying to build up a successful CV. So someone very like the departing Mr McLeish, someone living off their savings, close to retirement, who wouldn't mind a paid job. On the other hand the Scots in general are an optimistic bunch and they may come up with some soul who see's himself as a footballing William Wallace, riding to the rescue of the country. What's needed though is a King Robert the First. Wallace ultimately lost. Robert won. nada  and then theirs England Poly Spent millions on 'World Class' managers over the years, taken talent from 'the best league in the world' and still won the same same as Scotland since 1966 Zilch, nowt, nada |
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Post by polyphemus on Apr 22, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Its hard to imagine how anybody who has been involved in football all their life, from childhood through youth to adulthood, would still want to take on the Scotland job. To call it a thankless, poison chalice is putting a gloss on it. For whatever reason, the football talent that used to come flowing out of Scotland, no longer exists in the sort of numbers needed to build an international side. What does exist though, and with the same passion as in the days of Law, Gilzean , Baxter and Dalgleish, is the Fans expectations. It's raw, boisterous, raucous and sometimes, (often if they win) completely OTT. In many ways they are like our lot. Experience has taught them nothing, only heightened their enthusiasm, despite the realities of the situation. Great fans but when it goes wrong, like Fans the world over, they turn on the manager, quickly and he is blamed for not turning this sows ear of a team into a silk purse. It will be interesting to see who the next sacrificial cow will be. I'm guessing it wont be someone in work at present. Or anybody who is trying to build up a successful CV. So someone very like the departing Mr McLeish, someone living off their savings, close to retirement, who wouldn't mind a paid job. On the other hand the Scots in general are an optimistic bunch and they may come up with some soul who see's himself as a footballing William Wallace, riding to the rescue of the country. What's needed though is a King Robert the First. Wallace ultimately lost. Robert won. nada and then theirs England Poly Spent millions on 'World Class' managers over the years, taken talent from 'the best league in the world' and still won the same same as Scotland since 1966 Zilch, nowt, nada While you are right, up to a point, you haven't gone far enough. England at least USUALY qualify for tournaments and despite everything they tend to be regularly ranked in the top twenty of the Worlds teams. And it matters nothing how much a Manager is paid because if he doesn't have the raw materials to work we he is done for. But it would be great IF Scotland had a resurgence. Their Fans deserve it. But something has gone drastically wrong North of the Border, as far as Football is concerned. Is it at 'grass roots level' or is it because they are stuck with an uncompetitive league with little cash. I don't know the answer but I'd love to see somebody solve the problem but I don't foresee a 'quick fix' anytime soon, sadly. |
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Post by macmackem on Apr 22, 2019 17:20:40 GMT
nada and then theirs England Poly Spent millions on 'World Class' managers over the years, taken talent from 'the best league in the world' and still won the same same as Scotland since 1966 Zilch, nowt, nada While you are right, up to a point, you haven't gone far enough. England at least USUALY qualify for tournaments and despite everything they tend to be regularly ranked in the top twenty of the Worlds teams. And it matters nothing how much a Manager is paid because if he doesn't have the raw materials to work we he is done for. But it would be great IF Scotland had a resurgence. Their Fans deserve it. But something has gone drastically wrong North of the Border, as far as Football is concerned. Is it at 'grass roots level' or is it because they are stuck with an uncompetitive league with little cash. I don't know the answer but I'd love to see somebody solve the problem but I don't foresee a 'quick fix' anytime soon, sadly. Afraid there's no money in the game up here Poly, apart from the Old Firm, think every club is struggling. Even the Celtic owners are mean with the cash, if they did spend, it would be less in their pockets |
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Post by polyphemus on Apr 24, 2019 7:44:26 GMT
Afraid there's no money in the game up here Poly, apart from the Old Firm, think every club is struggling. Even the Celtic owners are mean with the cash, if they did spend, it would be less in their pockets It seems to me to be a combination of lots of adverse factors. At the top level there is the lack of meaningful competitive fixtures and insufficient £££'s to attract more entertaining players. I'm too far away now to know what's gone wrong at 'grass root' level but plainly it isn't what it used to be. Then there is the Fans expectations. The population of England is over 50milion putting them 25th in the World, so we can expect a top 30 Ranking. Scotland has a population of around 5.5million yet they are expected by their Fans to match, (or better), England. That's not logical. Scotland punches way above it's weight in so many fields but on this one I guess that numbers are against them and numbers count. |
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Post by Les on Apr 24, 2019 11:00:50 GMT
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jack-ross-shortlist-scotland-managers-16172245Jack Ross on the shortlist for Scotland manager's job, according to reportsSunderland manager Jack Ross is being considered as the next Scotland manager, according to reports. Our sister paper the Daily Record claim that Ross is among a number of managers on a shortlist and being considered for the role by chief executive Ian Maxwell. The report claims that Maxwell is currently considering cost and availability of a number of names as he searches for a replacement for Alex McLeish who left the role last week. Aberdeen's Derek McInnes, Kilmarnock’s Steve Clarke and former Black Cats boss David Moyes are also named as being under consideration, while Scotland under-21s head coach Scot Gemmill remains firmly in the running with another in-house option - performance director Malky Mackay considered too. Black Cats fans can be forgiven for hoping for a quick resolution whatever the outcome. They were faced with a similar scenario back in the summer of 2016 with Sam Allardyce. Inspiring a dramatic late turnaround to lead the club to safety, fans were hoping Allardyce would finally be the man to get the club going in the right direction again after years of turmoil. Instead, a long, drawn-out process from the FA to find Roy Hodgson's replacement eventually led to Allardyce departing Sunderland for England, with Moyes arriving at the Stadium of Light. With limited time to assess his squad and add to it, thus began a dramatic decline which sees the club where they are now in League One. But the club has undergone a huge rebuild in the last 12 months, with new owners arriving last May. Stewart Donald worked quickly to find a new manager and quickly identified Ross as the man he wanted to lead Sunderland forward and the former St Mirren boss quickly won over the Stadium of Light faithful. Ross has in the past admitted that managing his country would be his 'ultimate ambition'. He told BBC Sport last year: "I wanted to play for my country as a player. I got a B cap and that was it. "But I grew up watching Scotland at Hampden a lot with my dad as a kid, and it is always something that has drawn me back.
"That opportunity would only come, though, if I am successful in club management."But quizzed last week about links to the Scotland job, Ross revealed his focus on Sunderland for the time being.He said: “I’ve said time and time again how much I enjoy this job, and also how much I’ve still got to do within it.
“For however long I’m here, that’s what I’ll be focused on, and my commitment to the job I’ve got to do here hasn’t changed. "That’s the only thing I’m focused on and there’s still an awful lot of things I want to achieve at Sunderland Football Club.”
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and then theirs England Poly